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What are the (resultant) tones in those sentences, where all the words in isolation have 3rd tone?

我很好。
我也很好。

Reading tone shandhi rules on Wikipedia, there is no explanation about tree or four single-syllable words with 3rd tones.

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Just as an aside to your question, this sort of thing is over-analyzing what happens naturally in language. Don't expect to be able to learn to do this fluently by concentrating or trying to remember the rules. It will only come after a lot of practice and speaking naturally. –  xiaohouzi79 Dec 16 '11 at 2:45
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True but being aware of such rules when practicing also helps and retaining a bad accent when becoming otherwise fluent in a language also happens naturally if you don't pay attention to the subtleties. –  hippietrail Jan 6 '12 at 7:18

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Looking at 我很好 this falls into the "When there are three 3rd tones in a row"

The 我 is one syllable so it falls into this part:

If the first word is one syllable, and the second word is two syllables, the first syllable becomes half-3rd tone (˨˩), the second syllable becomes 2nd tone, and the last syllable stays 3rd tone

For this 我也很好 this is logically split like this (我也) and (很好) which would result in two lots of

the first syllable becomes 2nd tone (˧˥), and the second syllable becomes a half-3rd tone (˨˩)

At least that's what the rules say. As per my comment above, don't bother memorizing this. It is more likely an incidental phenomenon as a result of regular use of the language. In other words, you will pick it up by learning to speak it fluently rather than trying to learn it from paper.

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+1 for "don't bother memorizing this" –  dusan Dec 16 '11 at 12:18
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The problem is that if dusan is not currently in China or someplace surrounded by native speakers, the advice against memorizing is just advice against trying to get it right. Even if the usage in China is irregular and variable, for a beginner it is worth trying to get basically correct habits. –  Colin McLarty Jan 18 at 14:13

There's no fixed answer how tone sandhi happens when three or more 3rd tone come together. It is still an active research area for linguists. It depends on grammar, speaking rate, and many other things.

However, in normal speech, no two 3rd tone would come together (in a word), the first one must change. It seems to be still under debate (among linguists) what would happen when the two continuous 3rd tone are not in one phrase.

So you can follow @xiohouzi79's advice, "don't bother to memorizing this".

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