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Jun
3
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation 2
dda, when a Cantonese reads a newspaper in his/her head, they are thinking spoken Cantonese, they are not thinking about the pronunciation of written Chinese at all. They automatically translate 給 to bei in their head. I have asked countless Hong Kong Cantonese speakers, they all tell me the same thing.
Jun
1
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation 2
Ok, I'd like your opinion regarding the usefulness of learning how to read written Chinese in cantonese. From a practical point of view, I have a daughter going through the HK schooling system, so I have a great interest in ensuring she gets maximum benefit from her education. It does seem to me that she should learn to speak cantonese and be able to read 'Cantonese' characters. But it also seems that when confronted with written Chinese, she would be better off reading it in Mandarin. I just don't get reading written Chinese in Cantonese.
May
28
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation 2
I have been told by someone from Shanghai that 俾 is non-standard and the only reason she knew it was pronounced as BI is because she knows Cantonese. I guess I'm still trying to get my head around why 俾 has to exists. As a thought experiment, suppose 俾 is eliminated from the language altogether and everyone is taught that 给 is now pronounced as BI in Cantonese, what has been lost?
May
27
asked Written Cantonese Pronunciation 2
Jun
19
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation
Just want to add that I asked the teacher specifically what language is going through her mind when she reads a book in private, she said it would be Cantonese spoken form. Which really begs the question what use is the Spoken written form? This is not a dig at the Cantonese, I really would like to know :O)
Jun
19
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation
Derek, given that 給 is used only when you write. 俾 is used when you speak, then why not just teach everyone that both characters are pronounced BEI? I don't understand the motivation in insisting spoken written form should be different from normal speech. Learning cantonese is almost like learning two separate languages.
Jun
11
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Jun
10
comment Written Cantonese Pronunciation
给 pronunced as KAP in cantonese in written form but BEI in spoken form (畀). In Mandarin, written and spoken is just GEI. I guess I am slightly confused about why the spoken form is a different character entirely and why they can't just officially simply things and just say 给 is pronounced as GEI instead of being an entirely different character. I think this point is important in the sense that if you ask a cantonese speaker from Guangdong, they may not know that 给 is pronounced as KAP as they will be taught mandarin only and cantonese they know is in spoken form only.
Jun
9
asked Written Cantonese Pronunciation
Jun
9
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