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I've looked for this question on the site but can't seem to find it. I'm interested in learning Chinese, well, Cantonese specifically, and I want to focus on both the written and spoken components. But from what I've read, the standard for written Chinese is Mandarin, regardless of dialect.

Is this understanding correct? I.e., that a variety of dialects use written Mandarin as the standard for the written component of the language, but differ only in pronunciation and word preference?

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  • Incidentally, I'd really hesitate to call Cantonese a "dialect" of Chinese, since I subscribe to the philosophy here, but well, Cantonese speakers have neither "an army [nor] a navy" and the writing system looks too much like Chinese, so it'll probably be considered that way for a long time and that's irrelevant here.
    – user5714
    Jul 14, 2015 at 17:24
  • In Chinese, spoken language (語言) and written language (文字) are two very different concepts. Mandarin is a spoken language, not a written language.
    – joehua
    Jul 12, 2020 at 6:43

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It depends. To the best of my knowledge, the formal written form of Cantonese is pretty much identical to that used by Mandarin, excepting:

  • Differences in usage (e.g. 玉米 v.s. 粟米 for "corn")
  • Usage of traditional v.s. simplified characters, although this is only an issue in that Hong Kong / Macau, which are Cantonese-speaking use traditional characters, whereas Mainland China does not. (Taiwan uses some form of the traditional system as well). So there may be some discrepancy in learning materials.

However, sometimes people will write more "informal", "spoken" Cantonese that will not really be identical (and not just for vocabulary reasons) to written Mandarin. For example, there is a song from the McDull franchise titled as 落街冇錢買麵包 (approximately "going onto the street, [had] no money to buy bread"). 落 (instead of 下) is just a Cantonese usage difference, but 冇 instead of 沒有 is a more "informal" or "vernacular" usage that I have never seen in any explicitly formal context. Your mileage may vary as to whether this sort of thing counts as a "word preference" difference; I would not because this isn't like the case of having different words for "corn".

Similarly, and perhaps more explicitly, sometimes characters like 喺, 係 (e.g. in 我係香港人 instead of 我是香港人, but which can also be used to indicate assent in a way that doesn't really exist in Mandarin), or 唔 (e.g. 唔明白 instead of 不明白) are used informally: I have probably seen such usage on platforms such as Facebook before.

In these cases, the basic grammatical structure is still similar (in the sense that things like word order are still mostly the same, but I wouldn't call this only "pronunciation and word preference" differences, since this isn't just about words for object X being different in Cantonese and Mandarin.

So yes, the "standard" written form should be identical with the exception of pronunciation and word preference to that of Mandarin, but I would really hesitate to say the same thing of the "informal" written forms that can often be found in more informal venues, such as on the internet.

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Standard Written Chinese is the written form of Mandarin, and is the only form of written Chinese in widespread use. People speaking all forms of spoken Chinese, including Cantonese speakers, Hokkien speakers, etc., all learn to write in Standard Written Chinese, i.e. they all learn to write the way Mandarin speakers speak (for better or worse).

There exists a fairly complete system of "Written Cantonese" (and to a lesser extent also written representations of Hokkien), which writes the way that Cantonese speakers speak, but it is practically never used in ordinary life by Cantonese speakers, and even many native Cantonese speakers may not understand some of the characters in it.

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This is a more political questions than linguistics questions. "Standard written language" means regulated by government and used in public places so that every educated individual can understand regardless region. However, Cantonese by linguistics standard, can be considered as a complete different language from Mandarin, so does Shanghainese. The reason not much materials are written in Cantonese is because of the regulations. In forums that only Cantonese speakers join, the words written are totally different. I cannot understand any, but my roommate helped me a bit. He said there are multiple ways Cantonese are written. There is a standard written Cantonese, but these days young people sometimes refuse to learn it systematically, so they write down spoken words just by characters with similar pronunciations. This is also because Cantonese is not recommended to be taught as a mandatory course in schools.

My Shanghai roommate says Shanghainese is gradually disappearing in his generation. But there are more societies speaking Cantonese than Shanghainese, so standard Cantonese can still exist for long.

Answer based on my friends who are native Cantonese and Shanghainese speaker.

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