I know the rough difference between a 成语 (4-character proverb)and a 俗语 (8-character or so saying), but what is a 谚语, and how does it differ from these?
I am also interested in 熟语。 How does this differ from these three?
asked Aug 18 '16 at 15:31
成語 and 諺語 are well established common expressions , well known by the whole population. 俗語 is more often, limited to regional use.
- 成語 mostly refer to Chinese idiom.
- 諺語 can be from different countries.
- Chinese 成語 are uniformly four characters phrases.
- For 俗語 and 諺語, number of character are flexible, some come in two parts.
Examples:
俗語 : "有便宜唔好使頸" (Cantonese) : "If there's benefit to be have, don't be stubborn."
諺語: "神要毀滅某人，必先使其瘋狂" (western): " "Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad."
- 諺語 (proverb) include "common sense" and "words of wisdom". from known or unknown origins.
- 俗語 (folk saying) include "situation description", "common sense" and "words of wisdom".
- 成語 (idiom) include "situation description" , "common sense", and "words of wisdom". Mostly came from known historical references, like poems, classical literature or famous quotes by historic figures .
Edit:
熟语 (Well known phrases) include:
惯用语(common phrase), usually contain three characters, for example: "打秋風"，"拍馬屁" , 成語, 諺語, 俗語, 歇后语(two-part allegorical saying), for example: "和尚打傘，無法無天" and 格言(motto), usually from famous people, for example: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself." by Franklin D. Roosevelt.
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Thank you for your descriptive answer. I would be happy to invite your post, if you could do me the favor of including your description of 熟语. This is from the front of a book. – Jack Maddington Aug 22 '16 at 21:00
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＂front of a book"? cover/封面? title page/书名页／扉页? There exists ＂汉语熟语小词典＂containing 成语、惯用语 and 歇后语 bkrs：[a two-part allegorical saying; sequel]通常只说前一部分, 后一部分不言而喻 e。g。十五个吊桶（打水）──七上八下 – user6065 Aug 22 '16 at 22:43
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famous example of 谚语：闰七不闰八，闰八过刀杀 （see web) mentioned in 《饥饿的女儿》，作者：虹影 author writes 我正是能随口念叨这些谚语的孩子中的一个 – user6065 Aug 24 '16 at 15:12
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格言 bkrs：（含有教育意义的成语） maxim; motto; aphorism; an established maxim:e。g。“规范的调查是犯罪学的道德基础。”"Uniform codes of investigation are the moral foundation of criminology." baiyun.net/detective/wccs07.html – user6065 Aug 29 '16 at 20:03
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语录 quotation，e。g。 毛主席语录 e。g。教育必须为无产阶级政治服务，必须同生产劳动相结合。为什么语言要学，并且要用很大的气力去学呢？因为语言这东西，不是随便可以学好的，非下苦动不可。 – user6065 Aug 29 '16 at 20:40
成语? – user4072 Aug 18 '16 at 15:51