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Everyone has their most hard to remember characters. For me, these two were hard (旅 and 派), until today I just noticed that the bottom right pay looks just like the character 刃 (the edge of a knife), written backwards. This, sure makes it easier to memorize them.

But the question still stands,

  1. what does that bottom left character component in these two characters represent?

  2. What about the top right part of 旅?

These components seem a bit uncommon in the dictionary for me, which is probably what made it harder for me to remember them in the first place.

  1. Can I use a special dictionary obj Android, or app, to look up all the characters in Chinese that have one of these two non-radical components in them, so that I mg carry exploit other charactersusing this criterion?

I have tried Pleco, but could not find this feature.

Thanks.

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though part of the right component of the character "旅" & "派" look similar, they've different origin.

旅 (u+65c5) is a character since oracle bone script, that it's composed by 㫃 (u+3ac3), plus 2 人 (u+4eba)

旅 (u+65c5) in oracle bone script: enter image description here

㫃 (u+3ac3) in oracle bone script: enter image description here

人 in oracle bone script: enter image description here

then, the character 派 (u+6d3e), according to 說文解字 is 水 (u+6c34) + 𠂢 (u+200a2), in which 𠂢 is the mirror writing of the character 永 (u+6c38).

永 (u+6c38) in oracle bone script: enter image description here

flip it horizontally, you've 𠂢 (u+200a2): enter image description here

so, about your question:

what does that bottom left character component 
in these two characters represent?

㫃 (u+3ac3) roughly is a flying flag. while 水 (u+6c34) is water.

What about the top right part of 旅?

the character 旅 (u+65c5) should be "chopped" into 㫃 + 人, if not, you'd be confused.

to look up all the characters in Chinese that have
one of these two non-radical components in them

the components of chinese characters ranged from 1600+ to 3000+, depends on who did the research, including simplified chinese, oracle bone script, bronze script, small seal script or not.

though i don't have a smartphone yet, it's in doubt that any apps in android, or ios would satisfy your need.

lastly, i would recommend multi-function chinese character database to you, which is "with archaic script forms, etymologies, english-chinese lookup, & word-formations phonologically disambiguated according to the cantonese dialect"

have fun :)

  • Minor comment: The character 旅 should be chopped into 㫃 + . – droooze Oct 14 '18 at 12:06
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http://www.zdic.net/z/1b/xs/65C5.htm

◎ 旅 lǚ

〈名〉

(1) (会意。甲骨文字形,象众人站在旗下。旗,指军旗;人,指士兵。小篆字形,表示旌旗;从“从”,表示众人,即士兵。本义:古代军队五百人为一旅)

http://www.zdic.net/z/1b/zy/65C5.htm

象众人站在旗下 ( like followers standing under a banner )

1 what does that bottom left character component in these two characters represent?

That part was "从" (two people side by side), representing "众人" (followers = soldiers) in the original 甲骨文.

2 What about the top right part of 旅?

It was a "flag/ banner" in 甲骨文

3 Can I use a special dictionary obj Android, or app, to look up all the characters in Chinese that have one of these two non-radical components in them, so that I mg carry exploit other characters using this criterion?

You can use the site linked in this post.

**the left side of 派 in 小篆 was representing "river branches

http://www.zdic.net/z/1c/sw/6D3E.htm (派) 別水也

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As mentioned elsewhere, the bottom right of「旅」and「派」are unrelated.


The left and top right of「旅」was indeed a single component「㫃」, and the rest of the character was「从」.「㫃」is a picture of a pole with attached adornments and a fluttering banner in the wind.



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「旅」adds multiple people to the picture who are carrying the flag. The banner was later separated from the pole.



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「旅」usually represented a travelling military group, so sometimes a war chariot「車」was added to the picture.

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This shape is no longer found in the modern script.


「派」was originally「𠂢」, where「氵」was added later.「𠂢」and「永」were originally the same character, compounding semantic「彳」or「亍」(depicting half a crossroads intersection, an indicator of motion) and the shape of「卜」(literally branching cracks during oracle bone divination, here an abstract representation of a river network). The entire character depicts a long, flowing river network.



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Before standardisation, Chinese characters did not have strict rules; mirror-imaged characters were generally not treated as different, with exception to cases like「左」vs.「右」out of necessity. Later standardisation led to「永」being clearly written one way and「𠂢」being its mirror image.



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  • The character meanings are developed through the original meaning of long, branching river network:
    • 「永」, long > long time/forever
    • 「𠂢/派」, branching (philosophical) schools of thought > political parties, styles
  • This should illustrate why「脈」and「脉」are variants of each other.

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I think the Chinese words are similar to the English words. Each English word is constructed with letters, for which the 26 letters are the standard atoms. For each Chinese word, there are also such atoms, but due to the complicity, unless the Chinese linguists, nobody spend time on studying and remembering them.

To the specific questions:

(1) what does that bottom left character component in these two characters represent?

In both the two words (旅 and 派), the elements on the left are the whole, i.e., "方" and "氵". "方" means square and you can find it in use. For the"氵", it looks like "三" but evolves from "水" (water).

(2) What about the top right part of 旅?

Please see the picture: enter image description here and refer to the order http://www.xiexingcun.com/hanzi/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=2987. It looks like the word "人" (people).

(3) Can I use a special dictionary obj Android, or app, to look up all the characters in Chinese that have one of these two non-radical components in them, so that I mg carry exploit other charactersusing this criterion?

Since the components are too complex, I think we only need to remember the words themselves. More exercise is necessary, and more important, writing exercise, not just typing on the computer, is important for better understanding the structure and good remembering.

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