I have a question about the grammar behind saying what seems like a simple thing, but is proving to be hard for me. "The door is locked." In English it's an expression of state using an adjective.

However, research on  鎖 has not been very fruitful as it is apparently just a noun (actually it can act as a verb, my bad). The most consistent examples of "the door is locked" I have been able to understand from Jukuu have indicated this structure:

門上了鎖。

First, is this correct? If so, what is the grammatical breakdown? I haven't run across a structure like this before, it doesn't fit a result complement or any other complement structure I know.

It seems like 上 is the verb. Is this the same sense as its use in 上廁所?  I'm also confused by the 了。Is it indicating change? Completion?

  • 1
    It can work as a verb (门锁了没有,门锁好了). Check out these many example sentences – Stumpy Joe Pete May 19 '17 at 20:27
  • That's funny, I didn't get those when in searched! Thanks! Maybe I had a typo. In any case though, is the sentence in the question also correct? – Ajean May 19 '17 at 20:32
  • Dunno dude, I'm not a native speaker. Both "门上了锁" and "门上锁了" have lots of hits on google, but the latter sounds better to me. – Stumpy Joe Pete May 19 '17 at 20:46
  • 1
    門是鎖著的。 門鎖著。 門已上鎖。 門已經鎖了。 門被鎖了。 門被鎖上了。 門鎖了。 門上鎖了。 門鎖好了。 – SLS May 19 '17 at 23:51
  • @SLS Those are great - I wrote them all down! – Ajean May 20 '17 at 0:24
up vote 2 down vote accepted

‘门上了锁’ is correct.

I think you can best understand '上' here as 'put, set'.

Here there are 16 different definitions for 上: 8,11,13 and 14 approach the meaning here.

门上了锁 door set lock = the door has been locked = the door is locked

If there is a padlock on a door, it is also locked. (padlock is 挂锁)

'门上了锁。' could mean 'There is a padlock on the door.' or 'The door is locked.' or 'The door has been locked.' or even '(someone) put a padlock on the door.' depending on context.

'房门上锁是为了防盗。' was translated: 'The doors were padlocked to prevent theft.'

都可以:

门锁了。The door is locked. / There is a padlock on the door.
门被锁了.
门上了锁。
门锁上了。
门(被)上锁了。

*门(被)锁了上。 【不好】

  • It makes so much sense when you break it down like that. Thanks! 上 is one of those things I'm still getting a good grasp on (plus being able to treat 鎖 as a verb helps). – Ajean May 20 '17 at 0:19

[6] [v] fit; install; apply; put on

門 - door(indirect object)

(被)上了 - (is) applied(v)

鎖 - lock (direct object)

"門(被)了鎖" = "door is applied with lock"

It means either a lock is put on the door or the door lock is set to locked state

~

門 - door(object)

(被)鎖上了 - (is) locked(v)

"門(被)鎖上了" = "door is locked"

~

門 - door(object)

是 - is (v)

锁著的 - locked (adj)

"門是锁著的" = "door is locked"

~

锁著的 - locked (adj)

門 - door(n)

"锁著的門" = "locked door"

Your Answer

 

By clicking "Post Your Answer", you acknowledge that you have read our updated terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy, and that your continued use of the website is subject to these policies.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.