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In the following sentence:

正如我们之前说,Alphabet在企业投资者中似乎有些另类。

I assumed the usage of 所 in this case is, according to Pleco:

[as a noun without 的, esp. when the verb is monosyllabic]

据你所说

But in this sentence there is no preposition such as 据. The whole sentence would work fine even without 所 I think.

So what does the 所 work for and what meaning does it have, compared to the case where 所 is not used?

  • 正如 simply takes the place of 据 here - they play the same role of the preposition you're looking for in this context. You can easily write 根据我们之前所说; while not meaning the same thing, it has the same grammatical structure. – droooze Feb 22 '18 at 14:42
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正如我们之前(说)= Just as we (said) previously- 说 is a verb here

正如我们之前(所说)= Just as (the words) we (said ) previously

"我们所说" is short for "我们()说的話" = "the words (that) we said"

therefore, "我们所说(的話)" is a noun

When you say "正如我们之前(说)" you have to follow it with a quote of what was said

When you say "正如我们之前(所说)" you can follow it with a quote of what was said or omit it and presume it is known

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ABC

CONS.

1 ~ V de that which

我所说的(话)

what I said

So if we want to get into semantics I think that 我所说的 would be better put as: the things that I said, especially looking at ABC's definition.

Like you said, taking away 所 would still be valid: 我说的 but that would just be the difference between what I said (我说的) and the things that I said (我所说的).


Now coming back to 据你所说.

ABC

CONV.

according to; on the grounds of

据他说...

According to him...

but if we add 所: 据他所说的 now becomes: according to what he said.

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所x is referring to the object of the verb x, and makes the phrase nominal.

e.g.:

  • 所见 what we see
  • 所言/所说 what we say
  • 所闻 what we hear
  • 所想 what we think
  • 日有所思,夜有所梦 what you thinking in the day is what you dreaming in the night
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"汉语800虚词用法词典"所二,用在做定语主谓词组的动词前面,表示中心词是受事 used before the verb in a subject-predicate structure to make it passive (applies to #1)所+动词/动词词组+的+名词/名词词组(1)我所认识的人中没有叫彼得的。(2)我把自己所想到的几个问题都说了,希望大家商量一下,看怎么解决。(3)我们所提的意见和建议不一定对,希望领导考虑吧。(4)现在,大学生们所关心的问题主要是毕业以后就业问题。(5)现在群众所关心、所议论的热点问题还是教育改革、医疗改革和住房改革问题。(6)一些留学生给学校领导所提的这些意见和建议,学校领导一定会认真研究,然后给大家一个满意的答复。四、用在动词前面,跟动词组成体词结构used before the verb to form a substantive structure (applies to #2) 1.所+单音节动词(1)来了四五个学生,我包了一百多个饺子差不多都吃完了,所剩无几。(2)今天是自助餐,大家随便吃,各取所需(3)所说那里不错,我们就去了,结果大失所望(bkrs:greatly disappointed)。(4)传说这首诗为大诗人李白所作,其实不是。(5)随着经济改革的成功,政治改革就是大势所趋,人心所向(6)看人不能只看他怎么说,还要看他怎么做,从一个人的所作所为,就能看出他到底是个什么样的人。(7)如这篇文章所说,一个人做点儿好事并不难,难的是一辈子做好事,不做坏事。(8)他视金钱如粪土,你说做官是受苦,真是英雄所见略同(bkrs:have similar views)。

  • can you format your answer to make it more readable, please. – user3306356 Feb 24 '18 at 8:57

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