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跟進此問題,題中之印

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共收六字,其中五字無疑,作爲

後皇漢
裔帝X

X是何字,解之有難。僅看字形,個人釋之爲「亘」,而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」,因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」,二解都有問題。

先說說「亘」與「亙」二字的字源。二者在秦漢之後已經就被混淆了,甚至到今世多釋之爲繁簡或異體關係,非也。

「亘」字本義是環繞、迴旋,很可能跟「還」、「漩」等類似的詞有同源關係,但初期竝無「亘」字而以「回」字當之,然後世「亘」字从「回」字分化。「回」是象形字,像迴旋流水,本義今作「洄」。



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在「回」字上或重複「回」字、或加幾筆橫畫,迺成「亘」。例:

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今「亘」字是傳承以「回」字上加兩筆橫畫竝無重複的結構,其中「回」部件後來變成了「日」形:



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「亙」字來源完全不同。「亙」迺「恆」,「㮓」二者的初文,二者是以「亙」上加義符而分化出來的字。「亙」也是象形字,像半月在天地之間。



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在今世收集的通用字沒有从「亘」作爲義符的字,而有以「亘」(須緣切)當聲符的字,例如「桓」、「宣」等(「恆」類似以胡登切「亙」部件作爲聲符的字,不以俗體「恒」等當之,免得迷惑)。

漢代無「亘帝」、「亙帝」,但確有

  • 漢文帝 劉
  • 帝 劉病已
  • 帝 劉志

印璽如果不是完全瞎製的一個玩具,我認爲X是上面粗體三者其中的一位假借字。查了劉煇《古文字通假字典》(722頁)之後,個人還是覺得X是「亘」字。

4885(元心 xuan)讀為桓(元匣 huan),叠韻

岣嶁碑:"唯王二年六月丁酉,承嗣越臣憲亘朱句。"曹錦炎《岣嶁碑研究》云"憲亘"即"憲桓",乃"朱句"自諡之詞。又馬王堆帛書《春秋事話ㆍ齊桓公與蔡夫人乘舟章》:"齊亘公與蔡夫人乘周(舟),夫人湯(蕩)周,禁之,不可,怒而歸之......亘公𧗿帀(師)以侵蔡,蔡人遂潰。""亘公"即"桓公",《左傳ㆍ僖公三年》曾記此事,"齊亘公"作"齊侯",魯僖公三年即齊桓公二十九年。

但是,我竝沒搜到有"漢X帝"而以X作爲通假字的記錄;證據不夠堅强,不可判斷在此印中X到底是甚麽字。

讀者如何?

  • 欲辨明此印何不諮詢原題主印璽之出處? – Toosky Hierot Aug 24 '18 at 0:25
  • @TooskyHierot StackExchange Rules: Don’t post an answer as a question. If you have a question on a current question, please post a separate question and link it. (Paraphrased, forgot where I read that) – droooze Aug 24 '18 at 0:41
  • You can comment under the question. – Toosky Hierot Aug 24 '18 at 1:08
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跟進此問題,題中之印

圖略

X是何字,解之有難。僅看字形,個人釋之爲「亘」,而@水巷孑蠻釋之爲「亙」,因漢朝既無「亘帝」也無「亙帝」,二解都有問題。

nice try, just some corners of vernacular chinese. practise more, you can master the writing of literary chinese :)

may i suggest:

緣前題雖解.而一疑尚存.固起此問求真

斯印存六字.其五已釋.惟漢後皇前之刻.亘乎.亙乎.眾說紛紜.未審孰是孰非.再者.漢世無亘.亙之諡.益添困惑

back to basic, a seal is for authentication, to make a stamping that other can recognised the stamped document as authentic, from a individual, or an entity.

the seal in question just declare "descendent of a particular emperor of 漢 dynasty".

any mr 劉 can make such claim, so?

next, the text "漢x皇帝後裔" is redundant & ugly. "漢室宗親"; 4 characters are enough for this purpose.

last, 亙 (u+4e99) is suggested, well, because the 漢語多功能字庫 do not has 亘 (u+4e98)

http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=亘

and, the 國語辭典 claimed 亘 (u+4e98) as variant of 亙 (u+4e99)

http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-bin/cbdic/gsweb.cgi?o=dcbdic&searchid=W00000070331

i need to read more, before making any sound judgement :(

last, relax, treat it as a "hello kitty stamp" :)

what i want to say is, hello kitty is based on a cat, it does not have a line to represent a mouth, and, it's "tail" is a circle only.

  • yes, don't "waste" too much efforts on this one. have fun :) – 水巷孑蠻 Aug 24 '18 at 3:05
  • Well I initially thought it was a badly made seal on a TV show. Just thought it may have had an alternative interpretation :) – droooze Aug 24 '18 at 3:09
  • sound interesting :) – 水巷孑蠻 Aug 24 '18 at 3:20
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It could simply be 室 as in 漢室 (Han dynasty)

「室」字的起源《说文解字》

"漢室皇帝後裔" (Han Dynasty emperor descendant) make a lot of sense

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