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I was looking at this sentence 我把雪糖放在这杯咖啡里 and was wondering if it would be grammatically sound to say 我放在这杯咖啡雪糖 to mean the same thing.

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    我放在这杯咖啡雪糖 is wrong. In this case, you have to use 把...structure just like your first example.
    – dan
    Dec 17 '18 at 4:44
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The first sentence "我把雪糖放在这杯咖啡里" is grammatically correct

[我 - subject (I)]

[把 - disposal marker that dispose the following object ]

[砂糖 - object (sugar)]

[放 - verb (put)]

[在( ~ )里 - preposition (into)]

[在(这杯咖啡)里 - relative phrase indicates location (into this cup of coffee)]

The second sentence "我放在这杯咖啡(砂糖)" is grammatically incorrect.

It should be: [我放 + (object)+ 在这杯咖啡里] = "我放(砂糖)在这杯咖啡里"

'砂糖'(object) is wrongly placed after the (relative phrase that indicate location) '这杯咖啡里'. That created a '[这杯咖啡 (n)]+[砂糖 (n)] situation'

it also missed the '里' in the preposition '在 ~ 里'

to put the object '砂糖' after '这杯咖啡' , you cannot use the disposal marker '把'

The correct form is "我在这杯咖啡里放入砂糖"

我(subject)

在( ~ )里(preposition)

在(这杯咖啡)里 (relative phrase- indicate location)

放入 (verb)

砂糖 (object)

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  • 3rd line: "depositive"? users suggest "dispositive", "dispose"
    – user6065
    Dec 17 '18 at 21:37
  • The usual term in English is "disposal marker"
    – Michaelyus
    Dec 18 '18 at 11:21
  • This is from resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/… ... How would you say this without the 把 construction? You might try this: 放 书 在 桌子 上 。 Fàng shū zài zhuōzi shàng. The problem is that the above Chinese sentence is not grammatical. You can't put an object right after a verb, and then put other modifiers of the verb after the object. Here are other examples of how to successfully use 把 and 放 in the same sentence. So I am guessing "我放(砂糖)在这杯咖啡里" is incorrect. Dec 20 '18 at 9:16
  • 我(I) 放(put) 砂糖(sugar) 在(into) 这杯咖啡里(this cup of coffee) is [(subject)+(verb)+(objective) + (relative phrase)] I don't see anything wrong with that
    – Tang Ho
    Dec 20 '18 at 12:19
  • "I put vegetable into the pot " literally mean "我放蔬菜入锅中" ; on the other hand "我把蔬菜放入锅中 literally mean "I take the vegetable and put it into the pot" using 把 emphasize what I am doing with the vegetable; while "我放蔬菜入锅中" emphasize what I put into the pot. >"我在这杯咖啡里把砂糖放入" sounds like "I am in the cup of coffee"
    – Tang Ho
    Dec 20 '18 at 12:28
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fronting object (雪?)糖 (食糖)is possible: 我食糖放在这杯咖啡里, grammar topic: prepositions(介词), 在,e.g. "图解基础汉语语法"介词(1):、到、给(一)在"在"主要引出时间和地点1。在动词前 格式 在+时间+做什么 在+哪儿+做什么 Attention "在+时间+做什么"格式中"在"常省略 玛丽是在到了北京以后才开始学汉语的。 玛丽在图书馆看书。2。在动词后 格式 动词+在+时间 动词+在+地方 玛丽出生在冬天 杯子放在桌子上Attention 只有部分动词可以用在"动词+在+时间"格式中,双音节动词主要有"出生、发生、出现"等,单音节动词主要有"定、改、排、放"等。More examples for 在动词后 "现代汉语虚词词典"(w/o 把)大衣搭在臂上,手里提着书包,孩子留在[了]姥姥家了,钉在墙上,挂在树上、两手按在桌子上,永远的惭愧和感谢留在我心里(朱自清),有些爱花的人,大都只是将花栽在盆里,一盆盆搁在架上;架子横放在院子里(朱自清)

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