There isn't a pronunciation for it on Wiktionary, and I don't know whether it is a fossilised or an analysable phrase, so therefore I don't know whether or not right-prominent tone sandhi applies. My guess would be:

/ɦi̯ʊŋ²² v̻əʔ⁵⁵ t͡sa̱ʔ²¹/

if it is a fossilised expression and thus right-prominent tone sandhi doesn't apply. Please tell me if I am correct. Thanks


Here is the entry for 用勿着 in《上海方言词典》on p. 304:

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ɦyoŋ˨˧꜖ uə?˥꜒ za?˨˧꜒꜔
⇨ ⟦𧟰得⟧ ßiɔ˥꜒ tə?˥꜒꜕

Tone letter to number translation:

ɦyoŋ²³⁻¹¹ uə?⁵⁵⁻⁵⁵ za?²³⁻⁵³

Tone sandhi is usually represented by back-to-back tone letters. So it looks like the corrected tones are:

ɦyoŋ¹¹ uə?⁵⁵ za?⁵³

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I have no idea about Shanghainese tones.

Here's an entry from a second dictionary 上海话大辞典 p. 274

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用勿着 ɦioŋ²² vo?⁵⁵ zᴀ?²¹

  • Are the dictionaries you used more reliable than Wiktionary? I might use them. – Cookie Dough Jun 13 '20 at 10:14
  • I always recommend Pleco. They have a lot of dictionaries for sale and a lot of free dictionaries that are quite top-notch. – Mou某 Jun 13 '20 at 11:18
  • I think the first notation with tone sandhi is actually: ɦyoŋ¹¹² uə?⁵⁵ za?⁵³ and it looks like the "original" tones are ɦyoŋ¹³ uə?⁵⁵ za?¹³. – Mou某 Jun 13 '20 at 13:06
  • Does Pleco work with Wu Chinese? – Cookie Dough Jun 13 '20 at 15:39
  • No, not at the moment. You can download those two PDFs I linked above though. – Mou某 Jun 13 '20 at 15:40

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