So I am trying to understand the 的 in this sentence which came from a native speaker.


  1. Can any of the 的 (by itself) be eliminated without modifying the meaning of this sentence?
  2. 下的那: If only these three words were removed, will the sentence still grammatically correct and retain its original meaning?
  3. 真的: If only these two words were removed, will the sentence still grammatically correct and retain its original meaning?
  4. 的大: Is the 的 necessary?
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    下的那 should not be removed. Actually, you have parsed it wrongly. It should be [下的][那个]雨. 的s in the sentence put more emphasis.
    – dan
    Commented Oct 27, 2020 at 7:24

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因为 广州的 雨季 下的 那个 雨 真的 是 特别的 大。

  1. Only the 的 of 下的 can not be removed.
  2. No. Because the 个 must be with 那. You can remove 那个 , or replace 下的那个 with a single 的.
  3. Yes. 真的 means trully.
  4. No. But you should know that the 的 is belong to 特别.

Maybe the construction of this sentence can help you answer the questions.

The compact version of 雨季下的那个雨真的是特别的大 is:

雨季的雨 是 大

雨季的雨 is extended to 雨季的 那个 雨 then 雨季 的那个雨. The extension basically means "that".

大 is extended to 特别 大 then 特别 大. The extension basically means "very".

是 is extended to 真的 是. The extension basically means "truly".

You can tell that the extensions do not mean much, but the over-decorated words convey an emotion of amazement.

  • This person was comparing the raining between 广州 and another city. In this case the 特别 did have some role. Right?
    – EmilyJ
    Commented Oct 27, 2020 at 17:38
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    @EmilyJ Yes, it can be seen as a comparison. But 特别 means "special" instead of "more ... than ...": it is comparing with everyone else.
    – River
    Commented Oct 27, 2020 at 20:49

You can leave them all out!

But what you have is not a sentence, it is just a "because" clause.

  1. 因为广州的雨季下的那个雨真的是特别的大, ....

  2. 因为广州雨季下那个雨真是特别大,你需要买一双雨靴。

This reminds me of a sentence someone sent me recently, as if you were to ask:

Where can you put 的 in 2.?

The English sentence was:

She told him that she loved him.

Where can you put 'only' in this sentence? (Use 'only' only once.)

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