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陈旧:(形容词)旧;过时的

在复习、学习HSK7~9级词汇时,我遇到了“陈旧”这个词。我认为“陈旧”是贬义词,即陈旧的东西一定有什么缺点,比如它已经被淘汰掉了或者不再被人接受的,所以你不应该使用它,或者至少有着更好的选择。

我找到的例句包括这样的搭配:

陈旧的观念(或信念)
陈旧的设备
陈旧的信息
陈旧的词语

这些例子都和我的假设一致的:“陈旧”是贬义词。可是,我在这里也遇到了一些这类的句子:

这个人立刻意识到这个托盘是陈旧而值钱
这家陈旧的银行外表虽不美丽,但内部非常漂亮。
州销售者从客户那里收取州销售税,并将其送到陈旧的地方

在这些句子里,“陈旧”好像不是贬义词。与此同时,我不知道这些例句可不可靠,说不定这里的用法不准确。

问题:“陈旧”这个词一定是贬义词吗?

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陈旧 is not a negative word. It can be used to describe objective and abstract things. The core meaning is old, our-dated.

There is a similar word 陈腐, 陈腐 is negative, because 腐 means rotten, not usable.

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“陈旧” itself is not a derogatory term, it simply means "old" or "aged" But its extended meanings "outdated" or "obsolete" are terms for "criticizing" which is derogatory if the goal is to belittle someone

Examples:

  • "陈旧" in "越陈旧的陈皮越值錢" (The older the tangerine peel, the more valuable it is) simply means "old" or "aged"

  • "陈旧" in "陈旧的观念" literally means "old idea" but the actual meaning is "outdated" or "obsolete" (old idea --> outdated idea --> no longer valid -- go hide in a corner or something)

Conclusion

From the context, we can determine "陈旧" simply means "old" (neutral) or "outdated" (derogatory)

Example:

墨迹陈旧,非近代之物 (ink can't be outdated)

思想陈旧,不合時宜 (old thinking is generally outdated)

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陈 and 旧 were not derogatory in Old Chinese. But “陈旧” is a slightly derogatory to derogatory term in many modern Chinese usages.

The entry for “陈旧” in 《重編國語辭典修訂本》 says this:

陳舊:過時而不合時宜。(dated and antiquated)

思想陳舊的人,常被稱為今之古人。People with old-fashioned ideas are often referred to as the ancient people of today. (derogatory)

In 《现代汉语词典》 the entry for 陈旧 says this:

陈旧:旧的;过时的。(old; dated)

设备虽然有点儿陈旧,还能使用。The equipment is a bit old, but still works. (slightly derogatory)

陈旧的观念应该被抛弃。Old-fashioned ideas should be discarded. (derogatory)

A random comment on an online bookstore says:

知识有些陈旧,但是书真的很好。 The knowledge is a bit outdated, but the book is really good. (derogatory)

There is a medical term called

陈旧性肺结核 Obsolete Tuberculosis. (neutral)

Other examples:

Derogatory:

(他)抱怨倫敦的地鐵非常陳舊。

看法总是要陈旧过时,而事实永远不会陈旧过时。

家俱陳設實在陳舊不堪。

她使用的詞語未免太陳舊了。

德国总理默克尔周三警告俄罗斯不要重新陷入关于势力范围的“陈旧思维模式”。

不落俗套,摆脱陈旧感!

言辞也许陈旧,情意不曾偏离。

两个州选区居民各自面对不同的民生问题,包括水灾、道路、沟渠、杂草、基建陈旧、牛只游荡等。

厂领导终于抛弃陈旧观念,开始引进新的生产技术。

宇宙和社会是那么陈旧,无味,虽则它们其实比‘儿时’新鲜得多了。

那新摆出来的烧饼,更是陈旧不堪,暗想这种烧饼,还有什么人要买呢。

这些规章既陈旧又不现实。

Neutral:

陳舊性瘀血

Hence it is derogatory in most common usages. There do exist a few exceptions, mostly academic terms.

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  • Personally I prefer 老 instead of 陈旧 for 越"old"的陈皮越值錢. 陈旧 sounds a bit weird within the sentence.
    – user
    Nov 9, 2022 at 20:30
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Your examples are machine translated from English. Youdao's Chinese examples aren't reliable as it's facing Chinese users to learn English and crawled from web.

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