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I've never seen 𢧜 in any other character before, so I'll take that 𢧜 is exclusively for 鐵 (just like 邊 and 微 which I've asked before in the past). So where does 𢧜 come from? It seems to be a combination of relatively unrelated components, and none of them sound like 鐵.

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  • 𢧜 | 同【国】。Nothing to do with 鐵.
    – Mou某
    Sep 24 at 16:48
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    @Mou某 reading that as 「國」 looks like a 同形異字 (「或」+「王」+ ...). The component in 「鐵」 is 「戈」+「呈」 + ...
    – dROOOze
    Sep 25 at 3:30
  • @Mou某 戜 (U+621C) and 𢧌 (U+229CC) were indeed easily conflated.
    – Michaelyus
    Sep 25 at 9:40
  • @Michaelyus Not to mention U+229DC.
    – Mou某
    Sep 25 at 18:31

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「鐵」 (Zhengzhang OC: /*l̥ʰiːɡ/, black metal > iron) is comprised of semantic 「金」 (metal) and phonetic 「𢧤」 (/*l'iɡ/, using the reconstruction of 「秩」)*. 「𢧤」 (top-left component 「大」) was later corrupted into 「𢧜」 (top-left component 「十」).

「鐵」 represents the same word as 「驖」 (black horse), which also uses the component 「𢧤」. If you recursively trace the components downwards, you eventually end up with a phonetic 「呈」 (/*rleŋ/).


* 《說文・大部》𢧤,大也。从大𢧄聲。讀若《詩》「𢧜𢧜大猷」。《詩・巧言》:秩秩大猷、聖人莫之。

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