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Rule: erhua (儿化) in topolectical dictionaries

I'm looking for a rule or a guideline. Dictionaries dealing with MSM (Modern Standard Mandarin) would never morph erhua into the pinyin 头儿 would just simply be tou + r = tour. Some topolectical ...
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啰 vs. 囉 in Old Texts

啰 seems to be the simplified version of 囉 these days, but....these are two examples from 《四川方言词典》circa '87 that I found: 要飞啰 我是乌梢蛇打店——长客囉! Most the entries I've seen in these 八零后 books have all ...
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Sichuanese: When Is First Tone 55 Vs. 45?

55 and 45 are 调值 or tone values. The Sichuanese first tone is sometimes 55, like mandarin (high & flat), and sometimes a rising 45. Sichuanese: When Is First Tone 55 Vs. 45?
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Tone Sandhi: Sichuanese 四川话

Been trying to find the rules of tone sandhi in Sichuanese - but not having a lot of luck. Wikipedia Talk:Sichuanese Mandarin Tone Sandhi Great improvements to the original article! Can we ...
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Why would Antimony (Sb) and Aluminum (Al) be confused?

I'm going through some Chinese language materials and finding some interesting discoveries across multiple dialects. In Chinese 锑[銻] is Antimony (Sb) & 铝(鋁) is Aluminum (Al). In Cantonese there ...
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Using 鸟 as a verb

Wiktionary gives one usage of 鸟 as "(dialectal) to pay attention; to heed; to take notice of" Which dialect, or what region is this, and how does it look in one or two sample sentences?
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Reference: (彝语)杀只鸡,你死了我开心

I recently found out that there is a phrase in 彝语 (Yi) which equates to: 杀只鸡,你死了我开心 I tried finding some references to this online, but to no avail. If the original Yi phrase is available I would ...
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Meaning and usage of 得瑟(嘚瑟)

嘚瑟 [dè·se] (usually written 得瑟 in my limited observation) is apparently 东北方言. I've seen a couple dictionaries/explanations that say it means to "show off". I hear this word fairly frequently, but I ...
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Resource request: Hainanese dictionaries

What are the available Hainanese (海南話) dictionaries? In particular, dictionaries of the Wenchang (文昌) dialect. If those are not available, dictionaries of the Haikou (海口) dialect are also fine. If ...
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What could 轰 be a contraction of to mean “what”?

轰 can be found in some dialects, often with a 个 found on the end, to mean what. This is most definitely a contraction. (Similar dialects also feature a contraction of 哪 and 样 as 孃 niang, also meaning ...
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About a (Southern Sixian?) Hakka folk song found on Youtube

Since all the info I have about the song is in the Hakka Lyrics (facebook group) post I made about it, let me quote it as is, then proceed to ask the questions. Nyi-teu-sa ti li siu ko kai Hak-boi ...
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Is there any proof that learning ones own dialect will improve ability in Mandarin?

There were many topolectical surveys done and data collected in the 70’s and 80’s under the reasoning that a person more familiar with their own dialect would be readily more proficient at Mandarin. ...
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What is the etymologically correct character for the Min-Nan words for meat (bah)?

In both the teoswa and hokkien, the common word for meat is pronounced something like /baʔ/. I.e., it has a voiced initial stop (not like pinyin "b") and a glottal final. This doesn't seem like the ...
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When is d elided?

I know that plosive consonants can change in natural Mandarin speech, like intervocalic g is almost always elided, and sometimes k, but b and p are almost never elided, but when should d be elided? ...
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Min Nan expressions: spelling, meaning and pronunciation?

There is a song called 三声无奈, "three times helpless". It is in Min, and it has lyrics that can be written as: 一时贪着阿君仔媠 | A moment of craving, oh, you are beautiful 痴情目睭格眛眛 | [My] infatuated eyes [...
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跟到: 方言? Or what?

Is the word 跟到, as in 我们跟到就走, part of MSM? If not, what topolect is it from? Is there any documentation on it? (Dictionary entries, etc.) In case it's not clear the meaning of 跟到 is pretty much the ...
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Mandarin: 去 + xxx + 去了?

Where we live I often here the construct 去 + 某某某 + 去了, for instance: 去打牌去了 去上厕所去了 去做饭去了 Can this kind of construct be used in Mandarin aswell?
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How would you say “he does not take criticism well” in Cantonese and in Mandarin? [closed]

How would you say this in Cantonese and how would you say this in Mandarin?
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Difference between 汉语 and 华文

A Singaporean friend of mine calls his Chinese: 华文. I didn't realise that this also meant Chinese. What is the difference between 华文 and 汉语?
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What's “Mao Li” (Cantonese) in mandarin?

I've read an article which says that "Mao Li" in cantonese means "fool" in English. What is the mandarin equivalent of "Mao Li"? MandarinTools does not seem to return any useful results for ...
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Mandarin in Hunan Province

In Hunan Province, how common in standard Mandarin? Or, more generally, where regional dialects are spoken, how common is Mandarin? If I were to pass HSK 3 and be fairly competent at that level, ...
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What dialect/topolect is 凉薯 a part of?

《现代汉语大词典》defines 凉薯 as: 方言。即豆薯。有的地方也叫地瓜。藤本植物, 花色浅蓝或白色, 结荚, 种子有毒, 块根像甘薯, 可食。 It was the 方言 part that threw me off here. Baidu Baike just calls it a 别称 other resources also just say something ...
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Asking Chinese mother-in-law to learn pinyin?

I thought about asking this on parenting.se but it seemed specialized enough that this site made more sense. I'm a white man married to a Chinese woman, living in the US. Her parents live in China ...
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Are there any circumstances in which 弈 (yì) could be mistaken for 野 (yě)?

I understand the sounds and inflections are distinct, and that the only commonality is the initial consonant. But what if it were a conversation between two speakers with different native dialects, ...
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Etymologically Correct Character For The Sichuanese ‘niang’ Meaning “What”

邛崃方言 The character used here to represent ‘niang’ is 娘 but that obviously can't be the etymologically correct character for the above meanings (i.e.: what, how, etc.). Etymologically Correct ...
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Character: “Kei” For “To Go” (去) In Sichuanese

怎么在四川说话居然还会听不懂了 宜宾话和很多四川其他地方的话有代沟的,比如去字,宜宾读kei成都以南大多读ji以北读qi网上读qie 广安人表示也都kei 呵呵,就是,克耍。有些字眼他们真的不懂了 宜宾方言 出克:外出 克 seems to be the substitute character for kei but is there a REAL character ...
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Is this funny way of saying things some dialect?

本身明明长患上丑还说[...]那鸣一个惨呀! 长患 should be 长相 and 鸣 should be 叫, but they appear too many times that the possibility of them being typos is close to nil. [...]以是在贬低他人的时辰就出格不留人情,以是咱们见到这类人时可以绝不夷由地上往打。 ...
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Hokkien `綴` vs. `共`: compare and contrast

According to my reference, both 綴 (tuè/tè) and 共 (kā) can translate from Hokkien (alias Min Nan) to 跟. What is the difference between the two?
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Usage and origins of 打机

In Cantonese, 打机 is used colloquially to refer to playing video or computer games. Where does the expression/word come from, and is it also used in Mandarin? If not, what is a similar Mandarin ...
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What does “和尚撞了道士” mean?

In the song《掐死大象的蚂蚁》by Bridge and 二毛 there's a bar by twenty-cents(?) that goes: 咋个回事咋个回事 十点半还不晓得回家 问起咋子问起咋子 也不晓得打个电话 有事有事安啥子事嘛啥子事嘛 和尚撞了道士上房揭瓦你要造次 The part that is tripping me up is: ...
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What is a Singapore Sling drink known as in the Chinese dialects of Singapore?

The drink's inventor was Hainanese, though accounts of the drink's history and contents vary. The only reference to it in any form of Chinese that I was able to find was apparently written in ...
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Which dialect(s) to study before visiting Shenzhen? [closed]

I'm looking at travelling to Shenzhen for a month. Which dialect(s) should I study? For speaking with factory managers, workers, and for day to day life?
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Is ㄙㄨㄚˋ (sua4) for the character 嘴 from another Chinese dialect or language?

In my explorations of my area of Taichung today I noticed this sign with Zhuyin Fuhao and took a photo to look it up when I got home: And it seems that ㄙㄨㄚˋ (sua4) is not even an existing syllable in ...
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Min 毋免: m̄-bián only, or possibly m̄-mián?

This word is found in 爱拼才会赢, where I hear it as undoubtedly m̄-mián, yet when I look it up on 台湾闽南语常用词辞典 or on Wiktionary, I only find the pronunciation m̄-bián. So I was wondering: is he getting it ...
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Does 广安话 have 翘舌音?

四川话很少有翘舌音,除了自贡、郫县有一些说法之外,真的很难找到四川话的翘舌音。 《广安方言与民俗词典》记了几个: 【che(-)n】?伸“she(-)n”的音变。指舒展开。“扯伸”,又说“拉伸”,指拉直。例:把衣服扯伸。 【cha(v)】?叉“cha(-)”的音变。指分开、张开。 【ché】?坼“chè”的音变。指物体表面或内部出现了裂缝。 这些大概是错的,不过没有证据。 ...
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Why would the name of the 慈祐宮 temple in Taipei sometimes be written “Cinyou” instead of “Ciyou”?

Near where I'm staying in Taipei there is a temple called 慈祐宮. Most signs write 慈祐 in pinyin as "Ciyou", but some write it as "Cinyou". Would this just be a mistake or could there be a reason for it: ...
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Can the dialectical final “ue” be written in pinyin “ue”?

The final ue can be found in some Chinese dialects/topolects. It seems to also be written properly as uɛ if I'm not mistaken. The Wikipedia page for Sichuanese Mandarin lists an example: uɛ ...
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Chinese Languages With Multi-syllabic Readings Of Single Characters

Are there any Chinese langauges (topolects/dialects) that have multi-syllablic readings for single Characters? Like, Japanese, for instance has a lot of multi-syllablic readings for single ...
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How is “biang” as in “biáng biáng miàn” pronounced in other dialects?

To my understanding, "biáng" is not a sound that exists in Mandarin, though there's some argument on the hypothetical phonological possibility of such here. One might assume therefore that it is a ...
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About the last non-repeated sentence in 爱人是行船人

The Min song mentioned in the title has the following lyrics (conformed to the "guidelines" of 台湾闽南语常用词辞典): 在阮的心目中 伊是一个男子汉 在阮的一生中 只爱伊一人 伊的船只已经欲出航 毋知何时才会阁再入港 虽然装着笑容 来共伊相送 阿~~心爱的人 ...
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What verb is the 捏 in the Min sentence 将你捏絚絚?

There is this song called 不能讲的秘密 (well, technically it's best spelt as 袂使讲的秘密), "Secret I cannot tell", and it is in Min Nan. At a certain point, there is this sentence: 将你捏紧紧 That's how the ...
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Hakka song: problem translating a bit

Full song lyrics with transliteration and translation attempt The spelling is not something I want to discuss here. Indeed, I discussed it here. The transliteration is that given by Minhakka, plus ...
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Why would topolects get described in terms of Mandarin? (声母变异、韵母变异)

[Perhaps this is a "which came first - the chicken or the egg?"-type question - but I'm left quite puzzled why anyone would describe things in this manner.] Why would anyone (or any material for that ...
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Resources For Learning Southwestern Mandarin (西南官话)

We already have: Resources for learning Mandarin Chinese Useful resources for learning Taiwanese? Resources for learning Cantonese Resources for learning Shanghainese Resources for learning classical ...
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Mandarin Equivalent: 屙尿都屙不伸?

As the title says, what's the Mandarin equivalent of the phrase 屙尿都屙不伸? The phrase describes someone who can't do anything, and is pretty much useless. An English equivalent might be something like ...
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When is f not pronounced?

I've seen that in Beijing Mandarin f can be pronounced as something of a final consonant when in an unstressed syllable, e.g. 豆腐 dòu fǔ = dòuff. However, in other cases it disappears in unstressed ...
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Any evidence for z(h)uang (这么) and luang (那么)?

I keep hearing: zuang [tsuaŋ] and luang [Ĩuaŋ] for 这么 and 那么, respectively. I believe it is Minjiang dialect (岷江话, 岷江小片). I've flipped through a couple of books I have but I haven't been able ...
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What kind of nuance does 呗 have?

In the northeastern dialect, 呗 is sometimes added to the end of a sentence. Although I use it often as well, I don't really know how to explain why it is used and what nuance does it carry. My first ...
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Spoken unsubtitled Min in a (now deleted) Youtube video: characters?

Long ago, I ran into the song 媽媽歌星, and in particular I have a download of a video where there were two spoken parts in Min, without captions. It is rather unfortunate that the video in question is ...
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Can people carry on a conversation with each side speaking a different form of Chinese, like in some movies?

For example, in the movie Ip Man, the "northerner" martial arts fighter who comes to Foshan to challenge the local martial arts fighters always talks in Mandarin, while everybody he talks to (the ...