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Can 同学 really be used as a separable verb?

To say "no" is rather prescriptive. The phrase "同过 X 年学" or simply "同过学" is not so uncommon in real life. Pro-tip for advanced learners of Chinese: nouns can sometimes be ...
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Are there common rules about the usage of verb-object compounds?

A single character verb like 吃, 学 and 说 are typically more general, which mean they generally contain more than one meaning and can create ambiguity if there's not enough context Two characters verb ...
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Which online resources (preferably open source / cc) does contain info on which Chinese verbs is separable?

The Pleco app contains this information. It was actually confusing me for a while, but the //'s in the pinyin indicate verb separability. Pleco includes some free dictionaries, but it also allows you ...
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Using Dual-Character Verbs When Not Necessary

Some two-character verbs or verbal phrases are constructed as verb-object phrases (seperable verbs), e.g. 吃饭 (eat a meal) and 说话 (speak words). As they already have an object, you usually cannot have ...
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Does 下 in 吃不下饭 convey any meaning?

Yes it does. I won't go into the details of your textbook example. It may not be the best one because in that sentence the 下 could probably be replaced by some other result complement and roughly keep ...
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What's the meaning of 龙舟队分哪个两个组?

龙舟队分哪个两个组? I think it is a typo. remove the extra 个 and write 龙舟队分哪两个组?(dragon boat teams divided into which two groups?) make the most sense 龙舟队分[哪两个组]? 龙舟队分[男子组和女子组] 龙舟队分[成人组和少年组] 龙舟队分[业余组和职业组] ...
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Why is the structures for duration different in past and present tenses?

出差了一个星期 is correct. 出了差一个星期 is not. 出了一个星期(的)差 is correct. 我看了五分钟(的)书 is correct. 我看了书五分钟 is not. 我看书了五分钟 is not. 张斌《现代汉语描写语法》Section 5.6.4.3 has some explanations: 与数量补语使用相关的问题 (1) 带数量补语的结构如果加“了、过”,“...
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What's the grammar underlying 进步那么快?

"...usually you don't put content like this after the noun in a separable verb." "Usually" is the operative word here. "Separable word + 那么 + adjective" is a valid ...
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Using Dual-Character Verbs When Not Necessary

My textbook explains this grammar. Action verbs 说,看,吃,写,画,唱,洗,睡,etc. are usually followed by a noun-phrase. I speak English. 我说英文。 I eat noodles. 我吃面。 I read a book. 我看书。 If you are generalising ...
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Using Dual-Character Verbs When Not Necessary

If you add somethings after single character verb, sometimes it can be strange and not acceptable . Use 吃炒麵 is ok. 吃飯炒麵 is not acceptable. 說話德文 is not acceptable. While sometimes it is still ...
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他游了一个小时的泳. What is the grammar rule for separating 游 and 泳

It's because grammatically 游泳 is 离合词, which means it's separatable. Baidu also gives other examples there, such as 睡觉, 吃饭,etc. So, we can say 睡一个小时觉,吃个便饭,etc. 的 is 助词(auxiliary word) used after an ...
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Is 起草 a separable verb?

Read this answer and you would know why a [verb + noun compound word] like 起草 can be separated into [verb and noun] and treated as such Is "投个好胎" a proper set phrase/idiom? What does it mean?...
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Can 同学 really be used as a separable verb?

同学 is strictly a noun, 我和他同过三年学 is ungrammatical The classical version of 同学 is 同窗 同窗 is mainly a noun, but it can be used as a verb in classical style speech Example: 你我同窗三載 - you and I studied ...
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Is 起草 a separable verb?

Is 起草 a separable verb? Yes, in the dictionary《现代汉语词典》, separable words (离合词) are indicated with the symbol "//" in their pinyin, and 起草 is indicated as qǐ//cǎo. 起草 is a verb+object ...
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Can 出神 be split by something other than an aspect marker?

Most of the verbs that are made up of two verbs are inseparable Most of the verbs that are made up of a verb and a noun are separable Example: 攻(v) + 擊(v) = 攻擊 (attack) 攻擊(v) is inseparable. It has to ...
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Double (overlapping) separable verbs?

What I can tell you is that this kind of structure is to express emphasis. '她惊讶得说不出话来' has the same meaning as '她惊讶得话都说不出来'. But the latter uses the inverted pattern, which is always used as for ...
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What's the grammar underlying 进步那么快?

Not sure you would prefer this: 我可能也不会进那么快(的)步 但当然, but of course, 如果没有前面十几年在学校, without my previous 10+ years in school, 学习的基础知识, studying basic knowledge 我可能也不会进步那么快。 I might not have made such ...
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What's the grammar underlying 进步那么快?

进步 is a compound word for "advance"(v)/ improvement(n) e.g. 想要進步 = want to advance(v); 有進步 = have improvement(n) 进一步 is made up of [进(v)] + [一(counting word)] + [步(n)] = "advance one ...
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Why is the structures for duration different in past and present tenses?

I think it does not matter with the use of 出差. The verb is 去. I would like to give the following examples to help you. (1) (Present simple) “我去美国一个星期”. It is not a well-defined case. The time of the ...
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When and why is 的 used with an object in the middle between compound verbs?

The word (or words) 生气, 帮忙, 说话,吃饭,结婚, etc are common in their formation, which is a verb + object (VO) structure. Those words are flexible in constructing sentences. For example, (1) Insert an ...
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Can 同学 really be used as a separable verb?

I consider the speaking is correct, as 同学 is composed of two words "同" and "学", put the words together, it becomes a noun - "schoolmate", but the words can be used ...
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Can 同学 really be used as a separable verb?

The answer is no. Splitting 同 and 学 is usually seen in southern dialects, and is by no means the standard usage. It does not make sense both in modern context and archaic language. You can use ...
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Is 起草 a separable verb?

这封信你来起个草吧。"You, (please) to write/initiate the preliminary (草) for this letter." Or, "This time, you write/initiate the preliminary (草) letter". In both cases, there is only one ...
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他游了一个小时的泳. What is the grammar rule for separating 游 and 泳

You probably should not try to use any grammatical rules to understand the structure here. Since generally, We do not speak after trying to figure out what we say is a "离合词" or not and ...
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Does 下 in 吃不下饭 convey any meaning?

As indicated by other answers, 下 here is a resultative complement. Compare 饭吃不下 to 饭不吃. 饭不吃 implies that you won't eat anything at all because you 着急. 饭吃不下 implies that you try to eat something but ...
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What's the meaning of 龙舟队分哪个两个组?

I think this sentence is not perfectly grammatical. You can analyze it as follows: 龙舟队 The Dragon Boat Team 分 (divide into, assign to) 哪个 which (one) 两个组 two groups It doesn't sound grammatical to ...
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What's the meaning of 龙舟队分哪个两个组?

龙舟队 --- (The) Dragon boat team 分 --- separated / grouped into 哪个 --- which 两个 --- two 组? --- groups?
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Double (overlapping) separable verbs?

说(v): say 话(n): words 说话 = say(v) + words(n) The combination of 说话, was made into a single verb for "to speak/ to talk" When we want to express "can't speak" we can treat "说话&...
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