Timeline for Why is the Pinyin for 波 bo1 not buo1? And why is 多 duo1 instead of do1?
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| Sep 14, 2020 at 7:06 | answer | added | joehua | timeline score: 3 | |
| Aug 2, 2020 at 4:02 | history | edited | Becky 李蓓♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 11, 2020 at 1:35 | answer | added | Siwei | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 10:41 | comment | added | Olle Linge | @musialmi The question is about -uo and -o, not -ou and -o. The latter, which you wrote, are definitely different sounds and there are innumerable minimal pairs you'd confuse if you mix them up. Can you hear the difference between duo and dou, you should be able to hear the difference between mo and mou too. | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 10:38 | history | edited | Olle Linge |
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| Mar 30, 2020 at 9:51 | answer | added | Olle Linge | timeline score: 18 | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 2:12 | comment | added | fefe | wikipedia has such a note: "uo is written as o after b, p, m, f, or w." But I cannot find its source. | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 0:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackChinese/status/1244414206016962562 | ||
| Mar 29, 2020 at 23:32 | comment | added | Colin McLarty | @techie11 Yes, basically. I don't know what "inherent" would mean. But in Mandarin b, p, m, f, all need a u on-glide before o, so pinyin leaves it implicit. | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 17:01 | comment | added | techie11 | @Sweaper. it's easier to understand the cases of ü when used with "j", "x", "q" - those initials have an inherent "i" sound. Maybe similar reason apply to "b", "p", "m" - they have inherent "u" sound? | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 16:30 | comment | added | Colin McLarty | @Sweeper Yes that is what I have seen. The best systematic explanation I can find now is at the related question chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/993/… . It is amazing to me how many textbook and other explanations of pinyin feel it important to omit such details. | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 16:25 | comment | added | Sweeper | Since "buo" and "do" don't exist. I would guess this is just a spelling convention, similar to how you don't write the two dots on the ü when it's after "q", "j", "x", but do write them when it's after "l" or "n". | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 16:13 | comment | added | Colin McLarty | This point is well explained in episode 14 on labial initials in the (paywalled) Chinesepod series "Say it Right." And I am sure I have seen it explained in other places. But I am not sure enough of the details to explain it, and I cannot find a good explanation free on line now, | |
| Mar 29, 2020 at 14:25 | comment | added | musialmi | It's a good question. I've been learning Chinese for 3 years and a half and I can't really hear the difference between "mou" and "mo" (both these sounds exist in Chinese). | |
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| Mar 29, 2020 at 14:08 | history | asked | techie11 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |