Timeline for Why is the Pinyin for 波 bo1 not buo1? And why is 多 duo1 instead of do1?
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| Sep 18, 2020 at 19:08 | comment | added | gnucchi | I wonder if you have any thoughts on e.g. 蘿蔔 with neutral tone bo? To my untrained ears it still sounds like a diphthong [pwo], in contrast to other neutral tone syllables like 得 where the full tone is a diphthong [tɯ̯ʌ] but neutral tone is a monophthong [tɤ]. | |
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| Mar 30, 2020 at 15:04 | comment | added | Olle Linge | @ColinMcLarty Well, these are certainly problems for students. Obviously, the article is not aimed at people who have studied Mandarin phonetics and phonology. It's a collection of things that students tend to miss, partly because of lack of proper explanations in textbooks and courses. | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 14:52 | comment | added | Colin McLarty | This answer is all true, except these are not traps or pitfalls of pinyin. They are rules of pinyin, well known to phonologists. They are traps and pitfalls of deliberately oversimplified textbook descriptions of pinyin. | |
| Mar 30, 2020 at 14:52 | comment | added | techie11 | thanks for the elaboration. I believe, even though o is qualified as a final on the Pinyin chart, it's actually not used as a final to be attached to any initials other than bpmfw: it's mainly an element to form other composite finals such as ou, uo, ao, etc. It's easier to just think that b,p,m,f,w all have a diminutive 'u' sound in their pronunciation, hence, uo in this case is "simplified" as o. | |
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| Mar 30, 2020 at 9:51 | history | answered | Olle Linge | CC BY-SA 4.0 |